Podcast

‘Don’t Know Much About History’ With Roger McNamee

On his mentorship of Mark Zuckerberg and what drives powerfully pernicious platforms

Douglas Rushkoff
Team Human
Published in
2 min readMar 20, 2019

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Photo: @EDLPhotography

Playing for Team Human today: musician, investor, reformer, and the author of Zucked: Waking up to the Facebook Catastrophe, Roger McNamee. Roger will be talking about his mentorship of Mark Zuckerberg and what went wrong. Was it naive idealism? The imperatives of growth-driven capitalism? Greed? Rushkoff and McNamee look at how things have derailed and what must be done to reclaim the driver’s seat for technologies run amok.

“There are no rules today.” McNamee warns of online surveillance and the increasing power of behavioral modification. We’ve gone from being exploited as “the product” to becoming “fuel for the fire.”

Join Douglas and Roger for a behind-the-scenes look at what is driving these powerful and pernicious platforms.

Douglas opens with a monologue proposing a hypothetical. What if Zuckerberg had stayed in school? Would a little more study of history, literature, or a few more ethics courses have prevented the Facebook catastrophe?

This special episode of Team Human was recorded live in front of a studio audience in collaboration with WNYC’s Podcast Mixtape at the Greene Space. Look for future live dates on teamhuman.fm.

Check out Douglas’s regular column on Medium, featuring expanded versions of the monologues you hear each week opening the show.

On this episode you heard Fugazi’s “Foreman’s Dog” in the intro thanks to the kindness of the band and Dischord Records. Mid show you heard Roger McNamee’s band Moonalice. Our outro features Mike Watt’s beak-holding-letter-man.

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Douglas Rushkoff
Team Human

Author of Survival of the Richest, Team Human, Program or Be Programmed, and host of the Team Human podcast http://teamhuman.fm