ChatGPT generated panoramic image of a fingerprint with embedded warning signs
ChatGPT generated panoramic image of a fingerprint with embedded warning signs

Gray Rhinos & Black Swans Define Our Risk Fingerprints

Risk expert Michele Wucker talks personal approaches to risk and why we need to understand them in ourselves and others

Michael Barnard
The Future is Electric
26 min readDec 3, 2024

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We continue to live in world with changing and in many cases increasing risks. Michele Wucker, author of The Gray Rhino and You Are What You Risk, has thought about not only about risk more than most people, but also how different people and organizations perceive risks very differently. I continue my conversation with her in this second half of our discussion on my podcast Redefining Energy — Tech.

Many thanks to CleanTechnica for allowing me to republish this material that I originally recorded under their banner. This is the full, lightly edited transcript.

Michael Barnard (MB): Hi, welcome back to Redefining Energy — Tech. I’m your host, Michael Barnard. Joining me again today is Michele Wucker, author of best selling book especially in Asia, The Gray Rhino.

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The Future is Electric
The Future is Electric

Published in The Future is Electric

The Future is Electric is the house journal of TFIE Strategy Inc, a firm which assists global clients to future proof themselves in our rapidly changing world of business and technical innovation, and geopolitical and climate disruption.

Michael Barnard
Michael Barnard

Written by Michael Barnard

Climate futurist and advisor. Founder TFIE. Advisor FLIMAX. Podcast Redefining Energy - Tech.

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