Midjourney generated image of gray rhino feeling empathy for human
Midjourney generated image of gray rhino feeling empathy for human

Gray Rhinos, Risk Empathy & Climate: Author Michelle Wucker in Conversation

Best-selling author Wucker talks with Michael Barnard about her books, risk and empathy

Michael Barnard
The Future is Electric
8 min readAug 29, 2023

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Michele Wucker is the best-selling author of The Gray Rhino: How to Recognize and Act on the Obvious Dangers We Ignore and a new book, You Are What You Risk: The New Art and Science of Navigating an Uncertain World. I’ve been recommending The Gray Rhino to pretty much everybody since I read it shortly after it was published in 2021, recommended You Are What You Risk to a mentee in Singapore as recently as last week, and had the privilege of sitting down with Wucker for 90 minutes to discuss the implications and ramifications.

The two podcast episodes that resulted are live on your favorite platform or by clicking on the links below.

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Michael Barnard
The Future is Electric

Climate futurist and advisor. Founder TFIE. Advisor FLIMAX. Podcast Redefining Energy - Tech.