Episode 32: Catching up with Kristen + Katrina

Making it look effortless in Amsterdam (Photo by Katrina Johnston-Zimmerman)

It’s been a busy month for us between trips abroad, conferences, and new jobs, so we thought it would be a good time to sit down for a catch-up chat. Tune in as we discuss blog baby anniversaries, feminist planning in Stockholm, and Placemaking Week in Amsterdam. And stay tuned for some special announcements from the two of us, including a live recording of Third Wave Urbanism at NACTO’s Designing Cities conference next week in Chicago where we’ll be interviewing , Director of the Global Designing Cities Initiative!

If you like these conversations and advocating for human-scale cities, you can donate to our efforts on our Patreon page at . Thank you to our supporters, and thank you all for listening, sharing, and doing what you do!

As always, you can keep up with our thoughts and send us your comments on Twitter or Instagram: Katrina can be found at Kristen can be found at

Episode references:

Our live recording scheduled for NACTO’s Designing Cities conference November 1st:

Placemaking Week in Amsterdam:


Intro and closing music is “Urban Life” by Gustavs Strazdin used under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license:

Third Wave Urbanism

A podcast highlighting the new normal of urbanism in our globalized cities, as told by two female urbanists Katrina + Kristen.

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A podcast on what we like to call the third wave of livable urbanism in the 21st century as told by two young urbanists Katrina + Kristen.

Third Wave Urbanism

A podcast highlighting the new normal of urbanism in our globalized cities, as told by two female urbanists Katrina + Kristen.