Freudenstein’s Monster

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𝐀𝐈 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐤𝐬.𝐢𝐨

9 min readMay 16, 2023

On combining an ancient, a modern, and a new personality typing system into a new Freudenstein’s Monster of meta-astro-mythical navel gazing.

**Me: Can you please explain the ayurvedic personality types?

GPT4:
Sure, the Ayurvedic system of medicine, which originated in India over 3,000 years ago, posits that people can be classified into three main types, or “doshas”: Vata, Pitta, and Kapha. These doshas represent certain physiological and personality traits in Ayurveda. The balance or imbalance of these doshas is thought to influence a person’s health, temperament, and physical characteristics.

Vata (Air and Ether): Vata types are often seen as creative, quick to learn and grasp new knowledge, but also quick to forget. They are said to be lively, fun personalities, with a lean body type. Vata types may become easily excitable, but also easily anxious. In balance, Vata promotes creativity and flexibility, but when out of balance, Vata can cause fear and anxiety.

Pitta (Fire and Water): Pitta types are typically seen as intelligent, hard-working, and driven, often with a fiery personality. They are said to have a medium body build, be competitive, and potentially irritable in temperament. In balance, Pitta leads to understanding and intelligence, but an imbalance can cause ulcers and arouse anger.

Kapha (Earth and Water): Kapha types are typically seen as strong, with a heavy build, and can have great physical stamina. They are often calm, grounded, and patient, but can also become complacent and resistant to change. In balance, Kapha is expressed as love, calmness, and forgiveness, but out of balance, it can lead to insecurity and envy.

In Ayurveda, most people are considered to be a combination of doshas, but one is usually primary, one secondary and the third is usually least prominent. The balance of these doshas can be influenced by diet, lifestyle, and stress. Ayurvedic medicine uses this understanding of the doshas to tailor treatments to the individual for a variety of ailments.

Please note that while Ayurveda has been practiced for centuries and is considered a form of complementary and alternative medicine, its effectiveness is not universally accepted by the medical community, and its principles and practices should not replace consultation with a medical professional.

**Me: Please split the color-pie colors into three types each by combining then with the ayurvedic types to give 15 new types, and describe them.

GPT4:
Sure, we can create a hybrid system by combining the three Ayurvedic doshas (Vata, Pitta, Kapha) with the five Magic: The Gathering colors (White, Blue, Black, Red, Green). This would give us fifteen unique combinations. Here’s how each might be interpreted, bearing in mind that this is a speculative exercise:

White Vata: Creative peacemakers who value order and community. Their fast thinking might be channelled into diplomacy and conflict resolution.

White Pitta: Driven leaders who seek to establish justice and order. They’re often hardworking, intelligent, and have a strong sense of right and wrong.

White Kapha: Patient and reliable upholders of peace and harmony. They might be slower to act, but their decisions are usually well considered and intended to benefit everyone.

Blue Vata: Quick learners with a creative approach to knowledge and truth. Their curiosity and adaptability make them natural innovators.

Blue Pitta: Intelligent and analytical thinkers with a burning desire for knowledge. They love to plan and strategize, and are often perfectionists.

Blue Kapha: Steady and calm researchers who seek understanding. They may take their time to learn, but they have excellent memory retention.

Black Vata: Ambitious and adaptable individuals who will creatively pursue their own interests. They can be quick to seize opportunities and make the most of them.

Black Pitta: Driven and intelligent strategists who are fiercely independent. They’re highly ambitious and aren’t afraid to take risks to achieve their goals.

Black Kapha: Grounded and patient individuals who seek security and power. They are consistent and can patiently build their influence over time.

Red Vata: Passionate and impulsive individuals who value freedom and creativity. Their quick thinking often leads to spontaneous actions.

Red Pitta: Fiery and determined individuals who follow their passions. They’re quick to act and are often driven by their desires and impulses.

Red Kapha: Steady and loyal individuals who value their personal freedom and relationships. They might not be quick to anger, but their passions burn for a long time.

Green Vata: Creative and adaptable individuals who value growth and harmony. They’re quick to adapt to their environment and seek balance with nature.

Green Pitta: Driven and intelligent individuals who value growth and progress. They’re often leaders in their communities, using their understanding of nature and systems to guide their actions.

Green Kapha: Grounded and patient individuals who seek harmony with their environment. They’re steady, nurturing, and often the ones others turn to for support.

Remember, this is a speculative fusion of two distinct systems, so it’s open to interpretation and might not perfectly capture all the nuances of personality.

**Me: Please map the 16 MBTI types to this new hybrid system of 15 types.
ChatGPT

Mapping the 16 Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) types to this new hybrid system of 15 types is a complex task, as it involves blending three different frameworks of understanding human personality, behavior, and motivations. It’s important to note that this exercise is speculative and may not accurately represent the complexity and nuance of these systems or of individual personalities.

That being said, here’s a possible mapping:

INTJ — Blue Pitta: INTJs are often characterized as strategic, logical, and individualistic, which aligns with the intelligent and analytical nature of Blue Pitta.
INTP — Blue Vata: INTPs are often seen as innovative, curious, and adaptable, fitting the quick learning and creative approach of Blue Vata.
INFJ — Green Vata: INFJs are known for their idealistic and compassionate nature, aligning with the creative and adaptable Green Vata.
INFP — Green Vata: INFPs are also idealistic and value harmony, which aligns with the balance-seeking Green Vata.
ISTJ — White Kapha: ISTJs are often practical, dependable, and value order, aligning with the steady and reliable nature of White Kapha.
ISFJ — Green Kapha: ISFJs are protective, observant, and seek harmony, aligning with the grounded and patient Green Kapha.
ISTP — Red Vata: ISTPs are practical, independent, and adaptable, fitting the passionate and impulsive Red Vata.
ISFP — Green Vata: ISFPs are sensitive, flexible, and value the present moment, fitting the creative and adaptable Green Vata.
ENTJ — Black Pitta: ENTJs are organized, assertive, and value efficiency, fitting the driven and intelligent Black Pitta.
ENTP — Red Vata: ENTPs are innovative, adaptable, and value possibilities, fitting the passionate and impulsive Red Vata.
ENFJ — Green Pitta: ENFJs are charismatic and inspiring, and value interpersonal harmony, aligning with the driven and intelligent Green Pitta.
ENFP — Red Vata: ENFPs are passionate, adaptable, and value possibilities, aligning with the passionate and impulsive Red Vata.
ESTJ — White Pitta: ESTJs are practical, organized, and value social order, aligning with the driven and hardworking White Pitta.
ESFJ — White Kapha: ESFJs are sociable, caring, and value harmony, aligning with the patient and reliable White Kapha.
ESTP — Red Pitta: ESTPs are energetic, perceptive, and value immediate results, fitting the fiery and determined Red Pitta.
ESFP — Green Vata: ESFPs are outgoing, spontaneous, and value experiences, fitting the creative and adaptable Green Vata.

Remember, this is a rough mapping and doesn’t capture the full complexity and nuance of either system.

And the other way around:
**Me: Please map this new hybrid system of 15 types to the 16 MBTI types.
ChatGPT

Mapping the 15 hybrid types (Ayurvedic Dosha + Magic: The Gathering colors) to the 16 Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) types is not a perfect fit, but here’s a possible association:

White Vata — ENFP: ENFPs are enthusiastic, creative, and sociable free spirits, which may resonate with the creative peacemakers that White Vatas can be.

White Pitta — ESTJ: ESTJs are practical, realistic, matter-of-fact, decisive, quickly moving to implement decisions, aligning with the driven leaders of White Pittas.

White Kapha — ISFJ: ISFJs are quiet, friendly, responsible, and conscientious, similar to the patient and reliable upholders that White Kaphas can be.

Blue Vata — INTP: INTPs are quiet, contained, flexible, and adaptable with unusual ability to focus in depth to solve problems in their area of interest, aligning with the quick learners and creative Blue Vatas.

Blue Pitta — INTJ: INTJs are original, independent, individualistic, and determined, a good match for the intelligent and analytical thinkers of Blue Pittas.

Blue Kapha — ISTJ: ISTJs are serious, quiet, earn success by thoroughness and dependability, much like the steady and calm researchers that Blue Kaphas can be.

Black Vata — ENTP: ENTPs are quick, ingenious, stimulating, alert, and outspoken, aligning with the ambitious and adaptable individuals that Black Vatas can be.

Black Pitta — ENTJ: ENTJs are frank, decisive, assume leadership readily, matching the driven and intelligent strategists of Black Pittas.

Black Kapha — ESTP: ESTPs are pragmatic, realistic, spontaneous, and enjoy being the center of attention, similar to the grounded and patient individuals that Black Kaphas can be.

Red Vata — ESFP: ESFPs are outgoing, friendly, and accepting, aligning with the passionate and impulsive individuals that Red Vatas can be.

Red Pitta — ESTP: ESTPs are flexible, tolerant, pragmatic, energetic, and enjoy material comforts and style, fitting the fiery and determined individuals of Red Pittas.

Red Kapha — ESFJ: ESFJs are warm-hearted, conscientious, cooperative, and seek harmony, similar to the steady and loyal individuals that Red Kaphas can be.

Green Vata — INFP: INFPs are idealistic, loyal to their values and to people who are important to them, fitting the creative and adaptable individuals of Green Vatas.

Green Pitta — INFJ: INFJs are insightful, inspiring, decisive in their values, and have a clear vision about how best to serve the common good, aligning with the driven and intelligent individuals of Green Pittas.

Green Kapha — ISFP: ISFPs are quiet, friendly, sensitive, and kind, similar to the grounded and patient individuals that Green Kaphas can be.

As there are 16 MBTI types and only 15 hybrid types, one MBTI type is left out in this mapping. This exercise is meant to be illustrative and does not perfectly capture the complexity and nuance of individual personality. It is always important to remember that personality traits exist along a continuum and can’t always be neatly categorized.

And combining everything with an example from ‘a friend of mine’:
**Me: What would be the personality of someone with Blue-Red-Green-Vata-Pitta-ENTP-INTP?
GPT4:

This is quite an interesting blend of multiple personality frameworks, and it could represent a complex and multifaceted individual.

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So, combining all these aspects, the personality of someone with Blue-Red-Green-Vata-Pitta-ENTP-INTP would likely be characterized by a strong intellectual curiosity and a love of learning, a passion for freedom and individuality, and a value for growth and interconnectedness. They would likely be creative, adaptable, and possibly prone to restlessness or variability in energy levels. They could also have a strong intellect, capacity for leadership, and be goal-oriented and decisive. They would likely have a propensity for innovative and abstract thinking, be flexible and imaginative, and value spontaneity and flexibility over rigid plans and organization. They could be both outgoing and energized by time alone, depending on the situation.

Remember, this is a very rough sketch and individuals can vary widely within these typologies. These systems are not meant to box individuals in, but to provide a language for understanding and discussing different ways of being in the world.

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Final Comment:
While this is a fanciful exercise in deep navel gazing, and it does not (necessarily) point to ‘scripted’ behavior as in WestWorld, it might point to strong behavioral patterns beneath awareness that have been built into each of us through genetics and experience that strongly (stochastically) influence our responses from moment to moment in ways that are perhaps (nearly) deterministic, even if computationally irreducible, as Kurzweil might say. In any case, GPT4 can combine complex ideas and reason about permutations in surprising ways that would be time-consuming and difficult for a human, in mere moments.

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